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		<title>By: Joshua Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 04:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex, 

I&#039;m currently researching the US shipbuilding industry to build a forecast framework. I want to look for some intersection or corrolary between BIM and the modeling proceses done by shipbuilders. 

Is the book chapter still available? 

Thank you
Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently researching the US shipbuilding industry to build a forecast framework. I want to look for some intersection or corrolary between BIM and the modeling proceses done by shipbuilders. </p>
<p>Is the book chapter still available? </p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Josh</p>
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		<title>By: j coan</title>
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		<dc:creator>j coan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex-
Is the chapter still available? 

coan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex-<br />
Is the chapter still available? </p>
<p>coan</p>
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		<title>By: Ibrahim Thanawalla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ibrahim Thanawalla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 05:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rex,
Please send me the BIM chapter from your book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rex,<br />
Please send me the BIM chapter from your book.</p>
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		<title>By: Monte Chapin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monte Chapin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex,

Great entry ... and an excellent point! The latest 2009 McGraw Hill SmartMarket Report - The Business of BIM indicates growth in BIM use from 28% in 2007 to 48% in 2009. Yet today, nearly 50% of the AEC marketplace still sits on the BIM adoption sidelines, observing, as non-participants, in this all-to-important paradigm shift. Why? 

I believe that BIM adoption number maybe much lower. 

I have argued, for sometime now, that the adoption of a true BIM workflow or process (which I define as fully leveraging the &quot;I&quot; directly from the building model:  including all programming, design documentation, schedules, analysis, building performance simulation, asset management and facility operations, etc.) to be less than 15% of the entire AECOO marketplace. I specifically include &quot;owners and operators&quot; to be a very, very important component of that real number. Visualization and clash detection, although important aspects, are hardly &quot;BIM.&quot;

ROI cannot be calculated just through design and construction only.

Design and construction is but a fraction of the entire cost of a facility over its entire life cycle. Owners and operators are barely reaping the true benefits of BIM adoption. Until, the virtual building or BIM is used as a relational database of information and data over the entire life-cycle of the building, one can hardly call visualization and clash detection &quot;BIM.&quot; Frankly, clash detection and visualization are merely low hanging fruit; it should just be a part of good design.

And if you want to talk about &quot;sustainability&quot; in our building/development industry in this country (sustainability as environmental, social and economic), why aren&#039;t owners an operators demanding BIM; and not as object, but rather as process?

Deep, purposeful systems thinking, including: pre-design programming, design and construction analysis and simulating building performance, over time, as well as mining data and information beyond design and construction, through as-built, for facility and asset management during the entire life-cycle is BIM, IMHO. There are many BIM vendors in the marketplace, but the lack of integration and interoperability hinder BIM workflow.

Thank you Rex, for bringing this important topic to our conversation and dialogue.

Monte</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex,</p>
<p>Great entry &#8230; and an excellent point! The latest 2009 McGraw Hill SmartMarket Report &#8211; The Business of BIM indicates growth in BIM use from 28% in 2007 to 48% in 2009. Yet today, nearly 50% of the AEC marketplace still sits on the BIM adoption sidelines, observing, as non-participants, in this all-to-important paradigm shift. Why? </p>
<p>I believe that BIM adoption number maybe much lower. </p>
<p>I have argued, for sometime now, that the adoption of a true BIM workflow or process (which I define as fully leveraging the &#8220;I&#8221; directly from the building model:  including all programming, design documentation, schedules, analysis, building performance simulation, asset management and facility operations, etc.) to be less than 15% of the entire AECOO marketplace. I specifically include &#8220;owners and operators&#8221; to be a very, very important component of that real number. Visualization and clash detection, although important aspects, are hardly &#8220;BIM.&#8221;</p>
<p>ROI cannot be calculated just through design and construction only.</p>
<p>Design and construction is but a fraction of the entire cost of a facility over its entire life cycle. Owners and operators are barely reaping the true benefits of BIM adoption. Until, the virtual building or BIM is used as a relational database of information and data over the entire life-cycle of the building, one can hardly call visualization and clash detection &#8220;BIM.&#8221; Frankly, clash detection and visualization are merely low hanging fruit; it should just be a part of good design.</p>
<p>And if you want to talk about &#8220;sustainability&#8221; in our building/development industry in this country (sustainability as environmental, social and economic), why aren&#8217;t owners an operators demanding BIM; and not as object, but rather as process?</p>
<p>Deep, purposeful systems thinking, including: pre-design programming, design and construction analysis and simulating building performance, over time, as well as mining data and information beyond design and construction, through as-built, for facility and asset management during the entire life-cycle is BIM, IMHO. There are many BIM vendors in the marketplace, but the lack of integration and interoperability hinder BIM workflow.</p>
<p>Thank you Rex, for bringing this important topic to our conversation and dialogue.</p>
<p>Monte</p>
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		<title>By: Rea Edmonson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rea Edmonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex:

Interesting and educational.  Please send me a copy of the chapter in your book.  Also, how would I order the book?

As I attempt to move forward with the A&amp;E market that services the Federal Government, I need to become generally more knowledgable about these type of tools (BIM), etc.

I&#039;m aware of the USCG fascination with BIM, as well as the US Army Corps of Enginers.

I am going to forward this email to of the architectural firms in the NW that has considerable experience with the USCG  (AKS, Seattle).  One of their principals, Mark Adolphsen, is an ardent Haworth OWS supporter and has used TecCrete over Tate for a number of years, but may not be a BIM convert yet.

You may want to consider adding Mark to your email list.  marka@aksinc.com, Tele 206.623.6832

I&#039;m sure you&#039;re attending/participating in the Phx USGBC event.  I&#039;ll see you there.

Rea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex:</p>
<p>Interesting and educational.  Please send me a copy of the chapter in your book.  Also, how would I order the book?</p>
<p>As I attempt to move forward with the A&amp;E market that services the Federal Government, I need to become generally more knowledgable about these type of tools (BIM), etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware of the USCG fascination with BIM, as well as the US Army Corps of Enginers.</p>
<p>I am going to forward this email to of the architectural firms in the NW that has considerable experience with the USCG  (AKS, Seattle).  One of their principals, Mark Adolphsen, is an ardent Haworth OWS supporter and has used TecCrete over Tate for a number of years, but may not be a BIM convert yet.</p>
<p>You may want to consider adding Mark to your email list.  <a href="mailto:marka@aksinc.com">marka@aksinc.com</a>, Tele 206.623.6832</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re attending/participating in the Phx USGBC event.  I&#8217;ll see you there.</p>
<p>Rea</p>
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